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Allow user created tutorials

Allow users to submit their own tutorials and allow other users to vote on them. Good tutorials will (hopefully) end up with more votes so new users can easily tell which ones are good.

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    Emblis shared this idea  ·   ·  Admin →

    The response to this has be much higher than I had anticipated. Some of the other ideas on here, I knew would be popular. But this one is a surprise. There’s a lot of complexity in opening this kind of thing up, but it’s impossible to ignore all of the votes here. So I’ll be taking a look at the issues and trying to sort out the complex issue. Please continue voting for this if you like this idea (I don’t want to mess up the vote count because I responded).

    Lastly, if you’re interested in participating, either in the form of writing tutorials, or in the form of helping me decide what form this should appear in on the site, please get in touch with me, and I’ll start bouncing some ideas off of people.

    Keep in mind that even if everything gets sorted out, and I move forward with this, it may still be a while before anything starts showing up on my site.

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      • Dan Brown commented  · 

        No, No and No!
        if you want to create tutorials you can start your own wiki!
        your idea is wrong on many many levels!
        who will give me back the time I will waste on bad tutorial after I vote on it?

        RB Whitaker writes the best tutorials I ever seen! (I learn the C# course)
        Everything explained so well and simple that I found myself enjoying reading this tutorials!
        unlike other sites where I get bored after reading 5 lines of it.

        Not everyone can explain stuff! and I am sure even less can explain it in simple fast and easy to understand way as RB Whitaker does!
        So don't try to ruin this site please.

        I would like to ask RB Whitaker, if he can, to add more tutorials to the C# course, for people who finished the crash course.

        Thank you very much for this great tutorials!!

      • AdminRB Whitaker (Supreme Allied Commander, RB Whitaker's Wiki) commented  · 

        I'm putting together some details on how I envision this being implemented. I'll send you guys the details when I can, but to address the concerns that a couple of people have had, my intention right now is to have user-submitted tutorials (a) in a separate category algothether, (b) clearly labeled at the top as being written by a user (including their name) and (c) I expect that there will be a review process in place so that the tutorials are relevant, interesting, and well done.

        But I'll get you guys the details and get feedback from all of you before doing anything crazy, I promise!

      • Marcus commented  · 

        This is something that Kenneth posted:

        I would only want this if they are kept well clear of RB's tutorials. I hate mixing and matching tutorials from different people. That is one of the things that make RB's tut's so good. All of that information done from the same person. I would want it to be very easy to find RB's tuts without have to go through everyone elses.

        Personally, I really have to agree with this. I voted for this suggestion, but I would really hate having user-made tutorials mixed in with RB's. That's my opinion.

      • DefunctNinja commented  · 

        I think drawing up some guidelines for writing tutorials would be where to start.

        -Keeping the tutorial simple without all kinds of extraneous things going on and having some prerequisite knowledge listed for the reader to start with

        -Keep a group of moderators to initially give each tutorial a *cursory* check for the 'minimum' guidelines. The moderators would not all need to be a group of experts, having some with less knowledge on the subject of the tutorials would help verify the author knows what they are talking about

        -Each tutorial would not be published until a specified number of moderators 'okay-ed' it

        -The community could vote up or down authors (Maybe this is too destructive)

        -The community could give each author feedback

        -The community could vote up or down each tutorial

        There are just my suggestions and you (all) of course can take it or leave it, but it is the way I am envisioning something like this working. The only initial work from RB would be to either add the functionality to the site or have someone of his choosing do it and to choose moderators that he trusts to not be too lenient or too harsh. Moderators could maintain the tutorials if they chose to or the author could as well, changes could be logged in some sort of case information was removed that was crucial.

      • Emblis commented  · 

        As suggested, let user upvote good tutorials. Over time good tutorials will end up allot of upvotes, after that you can just sort tutorials by votes and the best ones will end up on top. If you are worried that you will have allot of bad tutorials you can have some kind of quality control before they are put on the site.

        I do not have any good idea on how keep them up to date in a good way, but someone will have to update them as things move along. It can be the original author, another user can resubmit the same one after having updated it, you can update them yourself or have someone responsible for updating them.

        As for on topic? Anything relevant I would say. It is a very broad subject we are talking about. To me it is more about encouraging creativity and improving knowledge about the tools we use, not about what should and should not be shared. If someone is willing to sit down and take the time to write about how to do something and then share it with others it is good enough for me.

        //Emblis

      • AdminRB Whitaker (Supreme Allied Commander, RB Whitaker's Wiki) commented  · 

        To address Kenneth's point, that is something I've been worried about myself, and it is what has stopped me from opening the site up to that in the past. But it is quite clear from this proposal that this is something people would love to see, so I don't want to eliminate the idea simply because "it's too hard to do it right."

        So please keep voting on this idea if you like it, but perhaps also consider leaving some comments that address any of the following points, if you've got any ideas:

        * How could I make sure that the quality of the tutorials are up to par? (Don't take that the wrong way; I know plenty of people are capable of writing really cool tutorials besides me. I just don't want to scare people away from the site because of one crummy tutorial.

        * How will the tutorials be maintained when the technology advances? Things change quickly in the software world, and it takes a lot of effort for me to maintain my own tutorials, let alone a lot of other people's. What happens if a person isn't around to update their tutorial when changes are needed?

        * How many people actually want to *write* tutorials? Or is it just that people know I'm heavily loaded already, and wish somebody else would jump in and write some additional tutorials?

        * What kinds of topics would be considered "on-topic" for other people's tutorials? If someone wants to put together some Unity tutorials, is that OK? If someone wants to put together some Ogre3D tutorials, is that OK? What about GPGPU?

        * What kinds of rewards would somebody want for writing tutorials? A link to their site, maybe?

      • Kenneth commented  · 

        I would only want this if they are kept well clear of RB's tutorials. I hate mixing and matching tutorials from different people. That is one of the things that make RB's tut's so good. All of that information done from the same person. I would want it to be very easy to find RB's tuts without have to go through everyone elses.

      • Peter commented  · 

        This would be awesome for those categories that RB doesn't cover. His site may morph into something much bigger, sort of a go to type of site for indie game development.

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